Date: January 24 2016 1:10 PM Title: PROLOGUE
OKAY, I've effectively blown off my story and am working on something completely unrelated to this site. If you have Celtx, then maybe I'll share it with you. I feel I could learn from you on how to write a longer story, and maybe you might learn something from me (less likely).
But the main thing I;m interested in is what I agreed to hold off until this story's finale. Now it's happened and I want to know if you intend to keep using the formula so that it only affects females. This BS about men not suffering any effects makes no sense (SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN).
Also I feel that maybe there will be an added twist with Men either being more stable so that they can operate as Soldiers and be part of an ANTI-GIANTESS attack (Operation Goliath Mk. II)
OR
They will be more unstable that women and will kill anyone and everyone.
I just feel you should keep options open. Attack of the 50 Ft Cheerleader did not specify whether the formula worked on just women, and yet they made it work anyway.
I am interested in hearing what you have to say.
Author's Response:
A pity to hear about the other story. I do not have Celtx. I guess it won't be that hard to install it and create an account but, quite honestly, I'm going through a very busy moment right now, so I'm not sure I would be of too much help in the short term. The only piece of advice I can give you about writing a long story is this: planning. Once you have an idea and a character (or characters) in mind, decide more or less what you want the story to be about and then write an outline: which will be the settings? who will be the supporting characters? how will things evolve? With that, plus a list of the chapters or scenes you want and a few bullet points of what you want each chapter to be about you'll be set.
Quite honestly, I think that what I have been posting can be considered a draft of a story with a certain structure. I set myself to write each chapter with the outline in mind and then I let myself get inspired as I went. I went as far as rewritting a few chapters once the story had progressed, but in most of the cases I just left them as I had originally created them and corrected a few things, plus the spelling, grammar and style.
As for the giants: honestly, there is no scientific reason why the formula should not work on men except for the one I made up for the story (it requires 2 X chromosomes). The reason it does not work on men is because male giants or giant couples are not really my cup of tea. I don't know too well why, but it's an idea that does not inspire me. Maybe it's because my liking to the giantess theme has to do with a combination of beauty and female power (that's why I like superwomen as well, especially the ones that use their powers in a naughtier way than Supergirl or Wonder Woman). I don't know... but I don't see myself writing about a giant man unless it is for a very brief moment in a story where the plot might justify it. But I would not expect that in the short term to be quite honest.
It's a matter of taste...
Date: January 03 2016 6:47 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Of course we can still communicate! Be it through your future stories, on DA or you could even comment on my stories too :)
Author's Response:
Yes, cof course! I really mean to get back to Downtrodden, since I was enjoying it quite a lot when I postponed it (I was buried in work at the moment). But I will get back to it and comment on it once I get up to speed!
Cheers!
Date: January 02 2016 10:30 PM Title: PROLOGUE
Good story but I thought you could have at least devoted more time to Lisa and Casey. Kelly ate up most of the screen time here although she was tons of fun.
The epilogue is fitting in that you can end things without really ending it. You have Casey who is still on the loose with Kelly frozen and Lisa also frozen. Stella is missing and likely able to grow if needed. 18 years from now it could very well end up with a fight between Stella and Casey for the fate of the world.
Author's Response:
Thanks, I'm glad that you enjoyed the story overall.
I agree with you that one of the main shortcomings of the story (that would need to be corrected if I ever re-write it) is not paying enough attention to Lisa and perhaps to Ron. I feel that Casey had her moment in Volume 1 and her moments in Volumes 2 and 3. I could probably explore a little more her psycho mentality if I went for a re-write, but I do not think that she requires much more development. What she is is clear enough... (although, as I say, it may be interesting to write a little more about her view of the worls).
As you say, Kelly was tons of fun (also to write), which in the end made me devote more time to her than to the rest.
I'm happy that you find the epilogue fitting. I wanted to end the plot lines in the trilogy in an elegant enough way but leave some possibilities open to return to this world in the future. Of course, Stella and Casey are these possiibilities. Who knows what may happen some years down the road? (18 years sound like a nice number that I could have incidentaily though about... :P)
Anyway, thank you for your feedback and support along the story. It was very much appreciated. I hope that we will continue communicating in the future.
Cheers!
Date: January 02 2016 1:56 PM Title: PROLOGUE
Well the epilogue leave many questions unanswered. Mandy is disappeared from the picture. you set background for a sequel !
Author's Response:
That was done on purpose. I wanted to keep possibilities open for future story lines in the Side Effects world. I hope that the Epilogue was good enough to at least close the main plot lines in the original trilogy (you'll tell me what you thought).
Mandy was never intended to be much more than a secondary character. If I ever did anything with her, it would be a "short", where she temporarily gets the power she is seeking for and uses it. But I doubt she would ever become a main character. She would break a little bit the logic that has been more or less working for the Side Effects story.
Stella and the runaway Casey are still interesting characters to come back to this world, though (and new characters could also be created).
I hope that you have enjoyed the series, in any case.
Cheers!
[Report This]Date: January 02 2016 12:11 PM Title: PROLOGUE
I made an account just to say great story!
I've been looking forward to new chapters every week and I'm a bit sad now that its over. I immensely enjoyed all the fun destruction but I really appreciated all the parts that were told from the POV of people on the ground below all the action. It makes the story much better to see it from every angle.
The other aspect I really enjoyed was Kelly's development and how she devloped her God complex as she gained more and more power, Abandoned it after she got nuked and became so big that the idea of ruling was impossible and decided the only thing left to do was satisfy her own carnal desires, and finally was brought back down to earth to breifly realize what she had done before being put on ice.
I was a bit disappointed that there was never any confrontation between Kelly and Casey after she became Mega too but I guess I'll just have to keep imagining that in my head.
Lots of open ended parts to think about. What happened to Stella? Will the Government be doing more experiments on the frozen former giants? Carson said it won't happen again but how can we be sure? The comment about Lisa being able to take much more gas than Joe leads me to believe that she and Kelly probably still have super strength and endurance like Casey does. Whatever happens I'm sure someday in the future Casey will find a way to come back bigger and badder than ever before.
Author's Response:
Well, first of all thank you for making the effort and taking the time to create the account just so that you could review the story. I'm very happy that you have enjoyed you so much.
The areas you are mentioning as the ones you enjoyed the most (the changes in viewpoints, Kelly's character development, ...) are precisely the ones where I devoted more time and effort while writing, since I thought they would be important elements into getting a good story, so I'm very happy that they were the ones that made the story good for you.
I know that the set-up of the story seemed to point to a confrontation between Casey and Kelly. I decided against that, though. I wanted to keep the plot unpredictable enough and as logical as possible. As much fun as that type of confrontation could have been to write (and I hope that to read), I think that the line I chose allowed me to end the story in a way closer to the one I had originally thought of. I could always write an "altertative storyline" chapter with that, if one day I feel inspired... (who knows...)
I tried to have the ending satisfactory enough in terms of closing the plot lines of the trllogy but open enough to be able to go back to the story later on. Of course, we have Lisa and Kelly frozen, but the story does not imply if this means they are dead or not. It would be highly unlikely that the government let these two slip through their fingers again, so "waking them up" (if that could be done), would require a pretty unique plot "resource". I've thought ot a few, but let me tell you that right now this does not feel like a line to pursue. I may change my opinion in the future (that's a right I like to keep :P), but at this moment I think that, as interesting as they were, Kelly and Lisa are done as characters for this world.
Of course, the characters with more possibilities to come back to this world, if I ever decide to do so, are Stella and Casey. And I can always create new characters, of course. I have some ideas for them and also some that do not involve them. And of course, I have ideas for stories in different worlds with different set ups. Quite honestly, right now I don't know what will happen.
Anyway, thanks again for the encouragement and the feedback. Comments like yours are what keep me motivated to write and post, so they are very much appreciated. If I ever post another story in the future, I'd appreciate your regular feedback!
Cheers!
Date: December 19 2015 8:13 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Well fuck...
I can't say I'm not surprised but seriously that nuke should have killed her even in her current state.It's not like one needs to be vaporized to be dead or anything.
And now you've just created an excuse for more mass slaughter and destruction...
(Though points for completing her evolution into a full-blown psychopath :P)
And I assumed at first she was done with ruling and is now focused more on wholesale destruction... after all, she has not bothered to pick up George or Charlotte which means she no longer cares about them. And yet you still want to make that her agenda even though she has made it clear she will not stop killing.
I am frustrated that you went riiiight to K, not to the reaction of the FSD after having heard the news. Surely she must have been 'dead' for hours and that should have given the FSD time to prepare their antidote
(Unless you have an explanation in the next chapter)
The name of the chapter is wrong BTW, seems she is not getting revenge, she's just doing this because she can. The ones who did this to her cannot be punished so she's taking her anger out on the public.
So, K's CIty size (seems she's the only one who keeps getting bigger), C' miniaturized but still super-powered, L is completely normal, as far as I can see, and the death toll must be approaching six million.
Hope there's good follow-up... the last two chapters had BETTER not be focused on K's lording over Earth like her playground... I can read those kinds of stories in 1 chapter or less.
Change something.
For mercy's sake, make this story GOOD!
P.S. (My story might be on hiatus... but that's irrelevant right now)
Author's Response:
Well, the effects of the nuke were unpredictable... Kelly was considerably tougher than a woman of her prodigious size should have been, and in the end this made her resistant enough to the nuke to get killed but not vaporized, which in turn made her bigger.
Yes, she now has an excuse for mass slaughter. She has never been so pissed off before, and she has never had the power to create so much destruction with a simple gesture before. So... it's not going to be nice for those that cross her path.
She does not think abour ruling, right now. She does not care about George or Charlotte anymore. We knew that Kelly was self-centered and now, with the wish for vengeance that she has, all she will focus on will precisely be that.
As for your idea on going to the FSD... you'll see what I have in mind for their front in the next chapter.
BTW, you might disagree, but I can assure you that kelly is acting out of spite and is looking for vengeance. She is not doing to enjoy anymore. The "issue" is that to her individual people have become too inconsequential to care. So in her mind, the focus of her retribution is the people itself, who cannot accept the new status quo.
You'll tell me if I managed to make this story good by the end. It's only two weeks left...
Cheers!
Date: December 19 2015 8:08 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Wonderful stuff, Kelly is now miles high and furious with the world but will she spare it? Or perhaps even let them shrink her down because she is now too large to prevent any more harm and also to sustain herself. She'll eat the world into a wasteland if she is that big.
Please finish this quickly, I want to know how the shrink her down now especially if they need even more of that gas.
Author's Response:
Thanks! I'm glad that you liked it. Kelly was a force of nature before, but now each of her actions has the destructive power of a natural disaster. Also, she has reached a size that she does not like anymroe, which makes her even more unpredictable. So, who knows how she will react?
Don't worry, the story will wrap up very quickly towards its conclusion. Everything will be resolved in the coming two weeks.
Cheers!
Date: December 06 2015 6:31 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Hey, just translating what iHategiants666 said since i am a native spanish speaker(some of the text is kinda confusing though):
"Oh my God! Like if this story couldn't get any more crazy! I already knew Casey would be shrink by the shrink vials, but she still has a unatural strenght and durability! Also she ate a lot of people, should they explode their guts? There is not working logic here! And i think it was needed to reach the details in their actions. Is better to show the maths of the after city and, possibly, go to another part of the story."
Author's Response:
Oh, don't worry. I'm a native Spanish speaker as well. iHategiants666 is not, which is why it was quite a nonsense that he used Google Translate to send the message to me. While I more or less understood the context, parts of the message did not make sense, so I decided not to invest too long on replying (he knows I can understand Enlgish much better than Google can translate into Spanish, so I can only guess what her intentions doing that were...)
Anyway, I hope you are enjoying the story more than him :)
Where are you from, by the way?
Cheers!
[Report This]Date: December 05 2015 9:43 PM Title: PROLOGUE
Wow wow wow . .Casey is just a freaking nightmare on wheels, gotta admit I really thought she was going to get killed off for a second there. She maybe more than a match for the average human, but for now she's definitely out of the running against Kelly and Lisa for the time being.
Author's Response:
Well, this entire chapter was about playing with reader's expectations and assumptions and trying to bring the twists in the last moment :)
As you mention, Casey is out of the Kelly's and Lisa's league. Her current strength is barely enough to give her an edge over "regular" humans in her new quest for getting her size back.
I hope that you are enjoying the story so far.
Cheers!
[Report This]Date: December 01 2015 4:05 PM Title: PROLOGUE
Have been enjoying this since part 2 kicked off. Keep up the good work.
In my head though Casey is now 40 miles plus (state sized) and we're heading to an armageddom situation if she isn't shrank immediately.but good luck wherever you do go with it.
Author's Response:
Thank you! I'm glad that you are enjoying the story. Volume 3 and the trilogy are heading towards its ending, but it's good to see that you are enjoying the overall evolution of the story.
The mistery of what will happen with Casey will be revealed soon enough... this Saturday. Hopefully you will like the solution I chose. Let me know once you read it, please!
Cheers!
Date: November 28 2015 8:01 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Awesome ,Kelly just moved to another level! Cannot wait to see how big Casey has gotten next week!
Author's Response:
Well, the story is getting into it's third act, so the women need to move to a new level to get ready for the conclusion (it's going to be a long third act, though, so there's still quite a bit of story left).
I hope that you will enjoy what's coming next week :)
Cheers!
Date: November 22 2015 9:31 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Hope Casey lives can't wait for the next chapter hope it's all about Casey. Hope to see the next chapter soon
Author's Response:
Well, as I was mentioning to Nostory, you'll have to wait a couple of weeks to find out, since next week it will be all about Kelly. From your feedback I gather that Casey is your favorite giantess i nthe story? May I ask why? She is usually the one with less supporters (not that she needs them ;)).
Thanks for the feedback!
Date: November 15 2015 9:24 AM Title: PROLOGUE
NOSTORY: I admit I was harsh though I'm glad you complained yourself, not just the author. Anyway, I take back what I said.
I just hate it when people root for hateful characters. Or rather characters I hate. That's my problem and I will not make it yours from now on.
I'll admit I might hypocritical, but I want to see K and C suffer for their actions.
PAPA: i appreciate your support of other reviewers, but I do not need threats or warnings laid against me. Whatever that P.S. was, don't ever give me that again. For my part i promise I will leave everyone else alone.
Author's Response:
That was neither a threat nor a warning. It was a request and since my tone in the answers tends to be relaxed, I wanted you to understand that this particular request was serious. Honestly, I don't know what is it that you could potentially interpret as a threat...
A couple of considerations:
- I did not know if Nostory would reply or not. I replied because this is not a forum but a site with a Review system, and reviews are addressed at the author and the author alone has the ability to reply. Having said that, this is my story, which I think entitles me to politely request reviewers to avoid flaming other reviewers.
- I'm sorry every time someone takes something I said badly, even when they get a different message than the one that was intended. In any case, I have to honestly say that I think that I tend to use a quite softer tone in my answers than the one you use in your reviews. I don't care about it, really. I've repeatedly said that I like having feedback of all sorts and I think I've proven that in all my answers. I maybe had incorrectly assumed that you would not mind a sentence like "I'm asking seriosly" in a review where you had sent someone to hell and mentioned that several parts of the chapter were bullshit (or something along these lines...).
Anyway, if we could go back to the dyamics where you told me what you liked and what you did not like in an honest way ("brutally honest" as Dr. House would put it ;)), I think we were both enjoying that type of interaction...
Cheers!
P.S. In any case, thanks for taking back what you said to Nostory.
Date: November 14 2015 8:59 PM Title: PROLOGUE
@iHategiants666, we all have our own opinion about this story, why flame me for mine? You have issues with it but I like it as it is. I don't take it too seriously because ultimately this is a fetish, that is it for all our stories.
@papayoya, thanks for that.
Author's Response:
Not a problem :)
Date: November 14 2015 5:46 AM Title: PROLOGUE
I hope they fail :)
Kelly is a favourite of mine and the chapter of her fighting planes was cool to read!
Author's Response:
Thanks! You'll get your answers in 7 weeks. If I can keep my posting regularity, by New Year (or shortly after it) you'll see the end of the story and all your questions will get answered :)
As you know, Kelly is a favorite of mine too ;) This does not mean that the story will end one way or the other, of course...
I'm glad that you emjoyed the plane fighting scenes. It was very fun to write too. Thanks!
Date: November 14 2015 4:50 AM Title: PROLOGUE
So Kelly's DNA is now with them and they know how her body fuels her growth, so stopping her liver from doing so will shrink her?
Author's Response:
Essentially yes, that's what they believe they've found out. Easier said than done, though :P
Date: November 10 2015 8:21 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Hey man, just passing to telling you i am enjoying Kelly being so big even Lisa and Casey are scarred of her, i hope for a scene where a even bigger casey just find herself as big as Kelly toe even when i dont think it will happen. Keep up the good work!
Author's Response:
Thanks! I'm glad that you are enjoying it. I'm not going to reveal what's going to happen, but I believe that you are going to enjoy the rest of the story. Please, keep letting me know what you think!
Cheers!
Date: November 08 2015 6:04 AM Title: PROLOGUE
Ok, i will accept the gamble. So the proposal is for how the rest of the story will play out or is it for how each chapter alone plays out to the end?
If i do this would you like to do it off the comments page? I seen that you have a dA page i to have a page on dA. Would you like to have it take place over notes? If so here is my page link http://angel00101.deviantart.com/ feel free to take at look at my gallery if you like to.
As for other stories that have the same thing as each time the girl has pain or comes close to death grows bigger am sure i read a lot of them over time and some that grows by taking in energy, lot of the names has slip my mind over time, so am not going to wreak my mind trying to think of forgtton stories, but don't bring up The magnificient Maggie that story just went down hill big time and needs to be forgotton.
Its just the over all thing with the females to always seem to grow bigger in some form or another instead of a set size from the start, by having them grow bigger by will or some other form just makes it hard to enjoy it because the female in the story will always seem to have the edge to win.
Now if it was in a setting where people have powers and size shifting was a thing, than that be understanding. But to have someone make a growth potion and one of the things it ends up doing is making the girl bigger each time gets old for me.
I have nothing else to add so i will end it here.
Author's Response:
The proposal is for the rest of the story. There are 7 chapters and an epilogue left and as I've been mentioning in the last couple of weeks the story is now in the middle of the second act and quickly advancing towards the third act, where it will conclude. The challenge is that you'll tell me what will happen with each of the girls from now until the end, what will the rest of the characters do (Ron, Mendel, the government) and how will the story end.
I'm fine with doing it via Notes in DA. I checked your gallery there; it's interesting but unfortunately I'm not too much into furry. I'll wait for your note and in a few weeks we will be able to close the loop and evaluate how predictable the story really was :)
On the second part of your comment: this is far from the first story where the girls grow more than one time along the story. I tried to provide an explanation for that other than willpower, but now I see that you would not have liked any scenario with more than one growth spurt. My guess, based on all your comments, is that you do not like it when the giant woman gets so powerful that she is almost impossible to stop, and the scenario where the woman grows when someone tries to kill her is the ultimate representation of this. I'm afraid I cannot do too much about that, since precisely one of my objectives with Side Effects and especially Volume 3 was to show the "power corrupts" trope in a giantess scenario (and in this case in the figure of Kelly). I have other stories in the work where the giant woman grows "just" once, but with a couple of exceptions, I like to explore the topic where the growth comes together with a significant change in her power position with the rest of the world.
Anyway, I don't think we are going to agree on this one, so I will end it here as well. Up to a point it's becoming similar to a conversation between someone who hates a story where the hero always ends on top and gets the girl and a screenwriter of a 007 movie (I'm using this one because it's the last movie I've seen, not because I find any similarities at all between 007 and Side Effects or the giantess topic in general).
I'll wait for your note! I feel curious myself about how predictable I really am.
Cheers!
Date: November 07 2015 1:15 PM Title: PROLOGUE
HOLD UP! You're saying that serum has made them IMMORTAL?
Or are you saying to them: "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"?
Either way, I'm confused. And disappointed. I thought Lisa was smarter than this. She should have been able to figure it out. She's had plenty of time, and then all the pain that she endured was NOT enough.
Also, why do you keep messing with our heads?? That's twice where you said Lisa felt herself getting bigger?? Are you planning something BIG??? (lol)
If not... I swear I will rewrite this story up to this point, and then have Saitama come in and one-shot K with an uppercut that takes her stupid head off.
Author's Response:
I'm not actually saying that they are inmortal, although I know it can feel like that. The "what does not kill you makes you stronger" could be closer, but not completely accurate either. The summary would be: most of the regular violent methods of death would actually not kill them but make their bodies react and grow as a way to protect themselves. This does not mean that there cannot be ways to counter the obvious benefits of the serum and, hence, kill them.
Sorry that you are disappointed about Lisa's actions. I kind of expected you would. She was not that smart, true, but the truth is that she was too mad to think rationally and was completely conviced that she would be able to grow when needed. She could not figure out that there were some rational causes for the growth, not just willpower.
As to why I keep messing with your heads... well, it's not my intention to mess with anyone's heads, but I did not want the story to be predictable. Making Lisa grow would have been less logical than what happened, considering the set-up, even if I guess that a lot of people was just expecting that. I'd rather have the story be somewhat intriguing, so that when you come for the following chapter next week you don't know what's going to happen in advance.
As for the rewrite... sure, I'll send you my lawyer's number so that you can reach an agreement about author's rights :P
Cheers!
Date: November 07 2015 7:34 AM Title: PROLOGUE
So George thinks he can be Kelly's conscience? Probably should start saying his goodbyes right now. Kelly should know pain causes the growth, wonder if she remembered that when she threw Lisa across the country. Because that could trigger a massive growth spurt.
Author's Response:
It would seem like George is affected by some sort of form of the Stockholm Syndrome, for sure. Having said this: Kelly has reached a point where she does not flinch in killing hundreds to get what she wants, but the truth is that she is not yet at a point where she would just kill someone she is holding beause she has had a change of heart. It's not that she has suddenly started caring about others, but in her eyes, this would mean looking too much like Casey. Of course, there's no way George will get Kelly to not do anything she has thought about doing.
As for the end of the chapter: Kelly has actually considered that if she hurts Lisa too much, to the point of actually killing her, this could end up causing a massive growth spurt. She is aware of the possibility. All over their very unbalanced fight she has tried to hurt her while not getting too far, on one hand because of this and on the other hand because she still has some affection for Lisa. So, when she has tossed her half a county away she has taken a calculated risk, betting that this would not be enough to kill Lisa, which is the only thing that would end up triggering another growth spurt...