Date: December 31 2015 6:30 AM Title: Degradation
Nice mix of erotica with semi-torture. Really gives some heavy meaning to the term "boy toy" in this chapter. Glad to see an update. Also hoping to see some more interaction from other Alpha girls in future chapters. Caitlin is entertaining in her own way, but I like more variety when it presents itself. Good stuff overall. Keep at it!
Author's Response:
The story is already planned out, but I am intrigued by your wish to see the other Alpha girls interact with Jack - what specifically do you like about their 'variety'?
PS: He is totally a boy toy - I particularly like the words 'toy' and 'play' in this kind of scenario, I guess it implies helplessness and when used as a euphemism for sexual antics it just feels naughty, like Caitlin is 'toying' with him by giving this faux-innocent pretense for her mischievous desires.
[Report This]Date: December 31 2015 1:01 AM Title: Degradation
Oh boy, it's been months since I have seen this story. Good thing the title is unique enough that I remembered that I follow it.
First off, this must be a Christmas gift to us, becuase this chapter is the best chapter in the entire story in my opinion.
It also wraps up 2015 in a way that makes me realize how many stories I have read on this site since this story's previous chapter. Glad you are back and happy holidays.
This chapter should've been called gratification or graduation becuase welcome to the club Jack, you just had your first sexual experience.
But let's just take a few steps back. We start with Caitlin and this ice that she places on Jack's shoulder. She knows that her pool party was a bit too much and I think she believes that she went too far this time and is pondering some thoughts as she tends to Jack.
I love the description you gave for Caitlin as she came from the pool. Her sillouette is all he can see as light flows around her. Jack must think she is like an angel at that point, the kind where light glows around them. Because Caitlin is now being gentle with Jaxk as she takes him to her kitchen counter.
Caitlin reminds me of a former coach I met. He was always being tough on his players. When Caitlin said "don't be a fucking wuss" or "don't get comfy", I got reminded of him. It's like she is training Jack for some thing.
Speaking of training, her brutal torture on Jack seemed to be a way of making Jack obedient to her. She wanted to enforce this idea constantly and did it in such a fashion that Jack is scared beyond measure and Caitlin wants Jack to feel helpless. As Jack suffers, Caitlin gains pleasure. She wants Jack to suffer mentally not physically, and that's the key difference between her torture and what happened at the pool party.
Caitlin then continues to surprise Jack by not just being a cruel girl that we have seen in the last 10 chapters. Last chapter, we saw some concern, now we learn some thing else. Caitlin wants Jack sexually. And not like romantic sex, this was brutal and forced like a type of female domination.
It all started when she transformed cruel to sexy with the ice cube. She uses ice on his groin, and that stuff hurts deeply I bet. Then she immediately heats things up (literally) by wrapping her hands around his dick and purring like a cat with her prey. (Imagine a giant girl wrapping your penis. Yeah, I know right.)
Now Jack starts freaking out in a way that I began laughing. Like, now his captor wants to play with him sexually and his mind is spinning like "what the hell is gonna happen?"
Then part 2 of this chapter begins and Caitlin gets naughty, like she is on the naughty list right now even though she got Jack in bed for Christmas becuase that is exactly what happened. She scares Jack by whispering seductively and I'm thinking "Jack is so lucky this chapter".
One thing that was kinda confusing was the positioning of these two during the bed scene, like I couldn't tell who was on top or bottom of what. At the end it was clear but when the scene stars, I had difficulty picturing it all enfold.
Caitlin could've tied Jack up with some tape or rope, but Caitlin manhandling Jack was even better. It just showed how much power and control she has. I mean, her hand alone keeps Jack from getting up. Wow. In addition, her legs wrapped him up like a doll. It felt like she was kinda squeezing him with her legs as you described her weight holding him down.
Lastly, thank you for including some good old facesitting in her. It is one of my favorite positions and you described it beautifully. Caitlin used his face for her own pleasure for the rest of the chapter and I wished it could have gone on longer, I mean that was fantastic.
Best chapter in this story so far in my opinion, and I can't wait for the next one.
Author's Response:
Quite a lot to respond to here!
First of all, very pleased you liked this chapter as it's an important one that took a lot of effort to write. It's the moment the whole story has been steadily building towards so at least there's a bit of closure there - the inevitable has happened.
It's called 'Degradation' because that's exactly what happens to Jack; there is no triumph or gratification in being abused in this manner. Whilst it is a sexual experience for Caitlin, it is a thoroughly traumatic one for him, there's nothing for him to celebrate.
You have done a lot of analysis into the characters' motivations and subtext, and for the most part you're along the right lines, though there is no 'one way' to interpret things. Jack probably wouldn't think of Caitlin as an angel for even a second, however, and she would not care whether his anguish was mental or physical so long as she got what she wanted. The face-sitting in particular is written to be primarily erotic, so yes, he is lucky in some way, but if you were put in that situation in real life, it would probably be deeply distressing, and I'm trying to reflect that too.
I'm sorry you found the positioning confusing, I've tried to be quite descriptive without the detail overwhelming the actions. I've read it back and I think it's fairly clear what's going on at all times, maybe a re-read might flow better? I also agree that him being unbound and naked gives a different dimension to the interaction from earlier chapters, which is quite deliberate I assure you - I don't want to repeat the same scenarios over and over!
Finally, thank you for taking the time to give such comprehensive feedback, it's nice to see how other people interpret your work and I've really enjoyed going through your thought processes.
~ Imagin8
[Report This]Date: December 30 2015 8:36 PM Title: Degradation
Tom Speedy will no doubt have a lengthier analysis. But, I can boil Caitlin's problem down to one sentence.
If sanity were beer, this girl would definitely be five cans short of a six pack.
Author's Response:
Unhinged? Probably.
Dangerous? Very.
Motives? Uncertain.
There is a news story from Russia in 2009 (which may or may not have been a sensationalist hoax) that claimed a 28-year-old female black-belt overpowered and repeatedly raped a 32-year-old male would-be robber for 3 days as punishment. Reactions to the story from a large proportion of commenters (presumably male) treated the whole thing like a dream scenario, stating how lucky the guy was or how much they would've liked to have robbed her store instead.
A weak man being overpowered and raped by a strong, attractive female is not viewed the same way as a weak female being raped by a strong, attractive male, even though obviously it should be - it's a sexual crime. Jack is a Beta, a kind of second-class, perhaps even sub-human citizen, most Alphas (especially men) would view this story very much as him getting 'lucky', even going so far as to be jealous of him for getting to 'sleep' with Caitlin. The girl is clearly a monster for her actions, but from her perspective, and the perspective of most of her Alpha friends, what she is doing doesn't appear 'serious' in the way that Jack, you and I view it. I'm not defending her actions, or trying to make any larger point about rape in general as this is erotic fiction with a sub / dom giantess kink, but I just wanted to explain how I view what's going on in the story.
Date: December 30 2015 7:00 PM Title: Degradation
Loving this story. I'm actually hoping for some form of justice for Jack, but as Caitlyn said, the world isn't always fair...But what a bitch though, using that as an excuse for using and abusing him like he was nothing.
Author's Response:
Karma is a long way off - if it even exists for Jack at all.
Date: December 30 2015 6:37 PM Title: Degradation
The emotional tension in this is so freaking hot. The wait is certainly worth it!
Author's Response:
I'm glad you enjoyed it - sorry to keep people waiting so long.
Date: October 19 2015 12:57 PM Title: Inundation
The only negative thing about this excellent tale is the time between chapters. Sigh.
Author's Response:
I know, right?
Date: September 19 2015 12:08 PM Title: Inundation
This story has all my favourite elements! Good writing, suspense, giant dildos, and powerful women dominating vulnerable men!
At the same time, I feel like I will inevitably be torn by the ending.
One side of me wants a happy ending, where the bullies are punished, and Jack runs off into the sunset with Penny.
...And the masochist in me wants Jack to be completely brainwashed by Caitlin, and made into her cute little pet/toy!
Either way, this is an excellent story. I can't wait to see what happens next!
[Report This]Date: August 13 2015 8:06 PM Title: Introduction
Makes sense now. Thanks.
[Report This]Date: August 13 2015 10:12 AM Title: Inundation
I enjoy this series, and really want to know where this is going now. But the characters have gotten increasingly harder to read personality-wise, with the exceptions of Amber (who is straightforward in cruelty) and Jack (who honestly seems to have stalled in character development, but I would too if I was living in utter terror and humiliation for the last two days).
I think Alex doesn't like Betas still, but ultimately dislikes seeing displays of utter cruelty. So why is she still a bully, and more importantly friends with the others?
Also, does Hannah also disapprove of hurting people, or is she just sad because she ruined everyone elses good time? If it's the former, why was she enjoying it so much, and if it's the latter, why was she so broken up about it?
Also, what's Caitlin's motivation at this point? I thought she was just a dominatrix towards Jack at the beginning, but then later showed more layers to it, and now is showing less?
Will any of my questions be answered in the next chapter? I really want to know where this is going!!!
Author's Response:
Ultimately, you won't know where this is going until it gets there - I'm not really sure why you'd want to know in advance, isn't that the whole point of a good narrative in the first place?
More specifically, the characters are evolving as you see more of them - they're not one-dimensional and they are capable of complex reasoning, like most people I know. I'll give you the current standing of each of them:
Jack: Utterly fucking exhausted, has not had a rest since being dragged out of the bear, has not had a moment to think, has barely said a word, scared for his life, currently more scared of Amber than Caitlin. The latest chapter hasn't covered his feelings, only what's happened to him.
Caitlin: Not enjoying having her friends over as much as she thought, worried that someone will injure Jack which will make things complicated - not because she doesn't mind him being hurt; rather that she would prefer to have complete control of him herself to toy with.
Amber: Has not been in the story long enough to be anything more than an even more twisted version of Caitlin, motives uncertain, enjoys his pain and humiliation immensely, seems very vindictive and cruel, furious to be told to leave (worrying!).
Hannnah: Ditzy, enjoys being with the popular girls, likes the little man in a similar way to a doll or pet, likes to hold him, very childlike, gets upset because she fears her carelessness will get her expelled from the group - not intrinsically evil but easily led astray.
Alex: Doesn't care much for Betas, does what everyone else does, doesn't share Caitlin's preoccupation with them but tolerates it. Saturday is the first time she truly senses how helpless Jack is, makes her think, puts herself in his position, begins to doubt herself, needs time to think.
[Report This]Date: August 12 2015 9:00 PM Title: Introduction
I really liked the foreshadowing of Alex's relunctance in Chapter 12 coming full circle in 13. After taking so much abuse it really makes even the slight shows of sympathy from Alex all the more touching especially when you wouldn't expect it from her being that she's part of Caitlin's clique.
[Report This]Date: August 12 2015 6:17 PM Title: Inundation
Another great chapter!
Interesting to see Alex feel for the little guy. He needed someone or anyone to help him.
Getting beat up in water; Ouch! Each breath is crucial especially when you are just trying to stay afloat.
We all know Cailtin is cruel, but it felt different this chapter. It's like she becomes cruel to an extent and then decides enough is enough. She even watches how the other girls handle Jack and tell them to watch out. I'm not sure if she is trying to establish authority or just want Jack to still be in one piece.
Perhaps both. I thought maybe she was even jealous when the other girls played with Jack, and it became the cause of her casting her friends away.
The whole pool party scene felt like Cailtins way of punishing Jack for hiding. I think she pictured all 3 girls using extreme force and abusing Jack. Instead, Alex showed compassion and Caitlin's plan withered away. I'm guessing that's another reason that could explain why Cailtin told her friends to go away.
Good stuff, I can't wait for the next chapter!
Author's Response:
Caitlin definitely comes across as more measured and less terrifying here - this is partially because Amber is presented as the loose cannon determined to inflict damage on Jack, taking the mantle from Cait, but you also realise that technically she can't damage him too badly or there will be ramifications when the time comes for him to be let free. Jealousy could explain her actions, which would suggest a certain depth of feeling for Jack, but it could equally be explained by a selfish, spoilt sort of attitude: 'he's mine, I kidnapped him, hands off'.
Caitlin will view Alex as being a soft touch with him, Amber a bit of a liability, albeit an entertaining one from her perspective (taunting Jack is great fun for her), and Hannah as a silly little girl. For now, she'd much rather be alone to treat him how she sees fit instead of worrying about how the others might do too much or too little of what she wants.
Date: August 12 2015 4:09 PM Title: Inundation
And the suspension continues! I'm glad to see that there is at least one sympathetic soul in the group, maybe two if you consider Hannah (overly playful but not sadistic). Wondering how long poor Jack is going to be held prisoner. Eventually someone is going to be concerned (family or the few friends he has in this world) and file a missing persons report or something. Really like the variety you have going on in the group: the power-hungry leader (Caitlin), the sadist (Amber), the semi-ditzy party girl (Hannah), and the compassionate voice of reason (Alex).
Side note on Caitlin: Was that night she threw the tantrum and then broke down emotionally just a one-time deal? I couldn't tell if she had some kind of potential love-hate relationship for Jack or slight tsundere characteristics towards him, or if that all was just a momentary break from her overall character of the domineering type she comes off as in general. Wondering how she'll come off from here on out.
Tantalizing stuff overall, both among the variuos Alphas and the direction of the story in general. Looking forward to more!
Author's Response:
Thank you for the in-depth review, it's really nice to read other peoples' analyses of what's going on, and for the most part your experiences of reading this story have matched my intentions when writing it.
It's deliberately not clear how or why Caitlin has selected Jack to be subjected to this kind of treatment, she has previous with at least one Beta boy that was presumably serious, and she has explained some of her reasoning - a lot of what you have mentioned may turn out to be true, it's quite complex and will ultimately reveal itself down the line. I wasn't familiar with tsundere as a concept but thank you for drawing my attention to it; now I know what it is I've definitely seen it used prominently in manga I've read, and there are elements of GH-X2 that could be considered very similar.
PS: Whilst Alex comes across in this chapter as the 'compassionate voice of reason', it's more a by-product of seeing the worst side of Caitlin and Amber, one that she may not have seen before. She's not a Beta-friendly person, by-and-large, and didn't seem to have a problem crushing his pen, or carrying him for Caitlin to antagonise behind closed doors, but when confronted with reality of a small, powerless boy being held captive, stripped and abused in the name of 'fun' for her Alpha buddies, she felt uncomfortable being complicit with it. This chapter was quite an eye-opening one for her, as in many ways this was the first time she's been made aware of how serious the implications of being a helpless Beta can be, and the guilt and confusion was too much to take.
Date: August 12 2015 3:47 PM Title: Introduction
I wasn't expecting that Alex girl to have a change of heart, after what happened earlier. And as someone else said below, it seems Cait has a thing for this boy in question.
Date: August 12 2015 1:56 PM Title: Inundation
Pretty fun chapter, the gorls were surprisingly less rough with him than I originally thought.
[Report This]Date: August 12 2015 1:43 PM Title: Inundation
I was making a half-serious reference to the "Omega" stories of Ackbar and Jacksmith. As those stories depict a size-related social hierarchy similar to yours. Namely, the Betas (us normal people); Alphas (mostly female giants ranging from Amazonian to Brobdinagian height who are sadistically cruel to the Betas...just because they can be); and Omegas (giantesses of mega-to-giga height who try their best to police the Alphas...with variable success).
Author's Response:
Ah righto - sorry, I didn't know, I haven't read any of the stories from that series. I had no idea that Alpha and Beta were used in such a similar way, I decided to use the terms to replace Classic (normal) and Idol (giant) used by SpawnGTS in his story 'Classic Guys' - which provided huge inspiration for the NWO scenario I depict. It's obviously a common sort of idea, so I'm not surprised other people have used these terms in such a way.
As for the 'feminazi' thing, I'm not a fan of the term but I can understand its usage here. Almost all Alpha girls treat Beta men with very little respect, it's common for them to tease and humiliate them in ways that are unpleasant but rarely violent, the difference here is that at least two of the girls appear to be quite misandristic, hence 'feminazi'. As will be uncovered later in the story, the grounds for this are actually rooted in the fact that the Alpha world is in fact much like our own - the cards are loaded very much towards rich, white Alpha men and even rich, white Alpha women can feel jaded and usurped. Betas are lower down the food chain than any other Alpha-scale person, of any race, creed and colour, thus white Beta males are targeted because they appear to be smaller versions of the most commonly overly privileged people in society.
If you were to transpose this to our world, just imagine if there were a sub-class of half-size humans, predominantly non-white, but with the occasional WASP - it's not unreasonable to suggest that some people might choose to take their ire out on them because of perceived injustice, resentment, etc in the 'real world', and because it is so easy for them to do it.
[Report This]Date: August 12 2015 12:28 PM Title: Inundation
Now, I know what prompted the evolution of the Omegas. Feminazi atrocities like this one. :-(
Author's Response:
I don't understand - can you explain?
Date: August 12 2015 12:00 PM Title: Inundation
well maybe there's some hope for Jack when you see alex's attitude but it'll much better if jack's friends show up!
Date: August 12 2015 12:00 PM Title: Inundation
well maybe there's some hope for Jack when you see alex's attitude but it'll much better if jack's friends show up!
Date: August 12 2015 12:00 PM Title: Inundation
well maybe there's some hope for Jack when you see alex's attitude but it'll much better if jack's friends show up!
[Report This]Date: August 12 2015 11:32 AM Title: Introduction
I don't know if it's just me or not, but Cailtin seems to have a thing for Jack. Its just buried deep down. She's cruel but that just seems to me that it stems from her friend Amber and having to uphold a standing because she is so big. I also have a bad feeling that we are going to see some breaking and entering while Cailtin is away.